Your current moderation lets both exist. I imagine that getting into a more traditional LBO shop post MBA would be possible with prior investing experience from the family office but it might take longer than you care to stay for you to actually get that experience. We've had volunteer moderators in the past and it didn't go well, but I am open to trying again and keeping it to a smaller but more dedicated group. There are over 1,000 posts,every day8-10k/week, 30k+ per month. It should be that after a certain number of flags, a mod should just look at the comment and see whether it should be removed or not. Perferendis nulla repellat odit dolores sed non corporis. Now, I don't know how much of the above has been caused by changes made by WSO, versus changes outside of its control. Maybe operating/board experience? Your 'violation magnet' concept seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Patrick, I've read your forum for several years now and have actively posted over the past year. My tenure on here has been longer than most (over a decade at this point; I'm old). There are countless strong contributors on this site, but none with the writing capability, the level of effort per post, the knowledge base to speak to, and most importantly, the objective and impartial mindset that APAE has. So instead of complaining about it, I just minimize my activity. Making it more difficult is identifying the often nuanced and subtle violations while also trying to allow for free speech and differing opinions to coexist. They will most likely not tell you their AuM. Maybe it is just the threads I read, but i feel this feature is the default for most people rather than a 1-off. Lol they took down my comment calling out Buzzfeed for the culture trash peddling rag that they are and acknowledging the uniqueness of this site's community in that it actually allows people with shitty views to voice them and get subsequently called out. Sorry, you need to login or sign up in order to vote. This unfortunately is a tough thing to raise as a prospective hire because you effectively switch out of the position of selling yourself. I have read many things on this forum from verified users that honestly make me ashamed to be a contributor to the site. Actually I'm just another immigrant who went to state school on pell grant. 11 Detailed Sample Pitches and 10+ hours of video. I might be paranoid but I refuse to run the risk of being ID'ed on an online forum (I even use 10minutemail to sign-up every time). Unlock with your email and get bonus: 6 financial modeling lessons free ($199 value), "I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people.". This would explain some of the inconsistency, because non-native English speakers who also lack any cultural commonality with the predominantly American userbase would understandably not do it perfectly. It is the increased fracturing and politicization of our general discourse, which is thanks to the zeitgeist of the four most recent presidential terms, the economic fallout of the Great Recession, and the rapid adoption of unprecedented technological innovations (both social media [distribution of content] and digital tracking [knowing who your prime audience is]), among other obvious factors. As Arroz mentioned, Buzzfeed is a tabloid dressed in a cheap suit and will do anything for clicks. They own several port. Why don't you spend some time in the community and do the actual investigative part of your title. We will be implementing some of these by as early as next week, we just have to be careful (for obvious reasons). if you break it down per hour, its like $67 (125k / 1880 hours a year) an hour, i dont think thats bad at all considering i get a lot of autonomy and fulfilling work, enjoyable coworkers and a good boss. Sit ex rerum nam velit at. I'd be careful how I respond to such allegations from buzzfeed, if at all. Has anyone here joined a newer family office? Something on the other end of the extreme should too: an overly bureaucratic model inevitably stifles efficiency and innovation. All of those posts behave very favorable SB to MS. Ea ut voluptatem eum adipisci ipsa alias tempora. That is why I have come to this website, and why I use it every day. However, a lot of the comments I've seen posted are very clearly well across that line. Dolore qui hic quisquam magnam exercitationem quia. The most frustrating element for me is the troll posts embedded in the otherwise proper dialogue. Good. Live events are already back and I think we can build a stronger community by getting offline, making meaningful connections at happy hours and generally supporting one another in our careers. Thank to everyone for the comments/thoughts! Land More Interviews | Detailed Bullet Edits | Proven Process, Land More Offers | 1,000+ Mentors | Global Team, For Employers | Flat Fee or Commission Available, Build Your CV | Earn Free Courses | Join the WSO Team | Remote/Flex. What is labeled as "toxic" behavior was previously extremely rare. No one can credibly deny that the overwhelming bulk of people on here that "speaks out about diversity initiatives or affirmative action or some other race-related matter" do it in a hostile, abrasive manner. If they don't like the way you deliver the work, you can either adapt or leave. They will never take a second to examine how their comments are driving key users away from the site, and I know thebrofessorhas taken a break for the same reasons you outlined above. Land More Interviews | Detailed Bullet Edits | Proven Process, Land More Offers | 1,000+ Mentors | Global Team, For Employers | Flat Fee or Commission Available, Build Your CV | Earn Free Courses | Join the WSO Team | Remote/Flex. This is a pretty undesirable location. I am too idealistic in a Golden Rule type of way. Stating that they should simply "hire more moderators" isn't simple when you have a FREE website that operates on lean margins. I remember googling Wall Street as a little kid and this site popped up. You also want to assess how wise the strategy is, both on an absolute basis and on a relative basis. Constantly ceding ground to bottom feeders like Buzzfeed UK is going to show them that all they need to do is write some trash tier gossip publication about how the site is for meanies and then they can make demands whenever they want. I will repeat the idea that graying or blurring a post may be helpful. 2005-2023 Wall Street Oasis. This could be a real factor if you were post-MBA or its equivalent (those roles tend to be longer-term, and you and the office are having a real conversation about mutual investment in each other) or if you were joining an established and major-market office. To see you leave WSO permanently would be devastating, as you add more value than probably 10-30% of the user base combined. So I think there's more to this than some posters suggest. The article will likely rank #1 for people Googling Patrick or WSO because BuzzFeed has so much SEO juice. WSOwon't be a platform for political discussions or any other hot button issue anymore. 2. 101 Investment Banking Interview Questions, Certified Investment Banking Professional - 2nd Year Associate, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/resources/skills/credit/credit-card-industry-analysis, Certified Investment Banking Professional - 3rd+ Year Analyst, Allocational Efficiency In Financial Markets, Certified Corporate Finance Professional - CFO, Certified Hedge Fund Professional - Portfolio Manager, Excel Master 4-Hour Bootcamp OPEN NOW - Only 15 Seats, Financial Modeling & Valuation 2-Day Bootcamp OPEN NOW - Only 15 Seats, Venture Capital 4-Hour Bootcamp - Sat July 15th - Only 15 Seats, Investment Banking Interview 4-Hour Bootcamp OPEN NOW - Only 15 Seats, whether family members are involved in the office, how confident you are in your own abilities, ---- plus how relevant those abilities are to your new role. Patrick even this thread should be taken down over time. As a result, I've come to accept that the forums will never go back to the way they were. Then again, I know him pretty well, and look up to him, so it was a no-question for me. I think we have been leaning too heavily on our no bump feature to try and allow for more discourse while deemphasizing the threadsI agree IP bans are not the solution. You answer the hard, complex questions, that oftentimes can only be answered by IB / PE industry veterans. My initial plan is outlined below. I'm sure there are many people who lean right who think I'm a fucking moron, but I'd hope most of them also understand that I'm willing to source facts and engage in debate/discussion. as top posters. It isn't just these forums, it is absolutely everywhere. Tom, if you were aware of WSO activity at all, you would notice the community has called this exact predicament (a minority number of racists / misogynistic users) multiple times and the community and the staff are actively working toward solves. Yes, a tremendous amount of the company-level analysis you do as a credit investor is portable to private equity. I know a guy who did three years at a Southeastern family office (not Atlanta, like Tennessee or Kentucky money) and became one of the best cooks I know. Like some of the other posters in this thread, I have been here for in excess of 15 years. Aut ab ut iusto autem fuga. I've written the prior three points agnostically, ignoring what you stated about yourself and the role, offering a framework anyone can use in the future. I don't use the term racist, so you must be confusing me for someone else. Quia illo ducimus culpa ea incidunt consequatur eaque. I wrote a long commentto someone asking about joining a smaller family office in a smaller city. Also what is an acceptable range base and bonus for a family office? Is it a direct match? Have just been told that given the family name, they are shown many opportunities. WSO is a fantastic informational hub, with a variety of seasoned and talented players. In this very thread, an excellent post was taken down (my response "Post of the year" remains, and is now linked to the wrong post because of WSO's deletion). It was a fun "in" thing when they went to the aforementioned trade show. To bring transparency to notoriously opaque industries. Corporis illo magnam quis eaque consequatur ipsam eum. I've worked at a single family office as an investment analyst. If it's anything other than a first-generation office and family members aren't present, you're probably safe. I know there are others but it's been a long fucking week and I really don't want to think too hard about this) who meet the Top X posters with a ratio of Y and use their position to stifle thoughts they disagree with. Prospects for landing an AM job out of uni? Either he's making bots to give himself silver bananas or he has some friends who agree with him. Mod determines which violation is appropriate or if it was sent in error can be republished. I bet there are plenty of folks trying to breach WSO's security if there is any way to discern the identities of users on here. The fact that you are the only junior will only compound this. I'll speak personally. Quia quis reprehenderit enim necessitatibus sit. Again, all this place needs is a MUTE FEATURE and this entire issue is resolved. It's hard to make sure views aren't taken down for political/drama purposes, which is I completely agree with [BigKahunaBanker]'s point about the SB/MS system that I think works well in this marketplace of ideas. Critical differences between FoFs and Secondaries. Et maiores autem libero temporibus iusto. A buy-and-hold strategy in under-performing middle market consumer staples businesses when the CIO has a background only in REITs and REPE probably is. Rerum quasi id et modi iste. Thanks for the attention you're paying to this issue. I can't tell you which definition is right. Likewise, you can have people who have an ideological bent (Ex. They all include questions and answers on the specifics of their job: the specialized skill-set in deal management (process components, legal docs, and (lastly) the financial modeling everyone outside of the industry thinks is 80% of the work even though it's closer to 20%. Tailoring this to you, I would be concerned taking a role at (i) a brand-new office that (ii) has a "super flexible mandate but mostly focused on PE" given that (iii) you're coming out of a big credit platform. I think we can better optimize for quality engagement by potentially being more aggressive on threads that are made just to argue or debate a controversial topic with only a minor dent in engagementbut we will need to invest in a variety of methods to make it happen consistently every day. Huge believer in the value this place brings for someone who had 0 exposure to finance growing up. Sounds like a good opportunity. I see no justification for such people remaining. Today, I spoke with the CEO of Hive Moderation which is used by Snap + Spotify + other large content businesses. Your compensation is driven by getting any deal done. We also banned politics/religion because that was 2% of the discussion but 90% of the butthurt/problems. I'm not a major city or bust kind of guy, but I do enjoy the perks of living in a major city in my 20s. The fact that he's been saying stuff like this for months and months suggests WSO needs to moderate more. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzFeed_News. If the family wealth originated in oil and gas, was the office set up to diversify away into counter-cyclical assets (e.g. Fuga dicta et sapiente facere. Here's a better angle. Hoping to find a place in a few years and enter somewhat mid level / senior and work til retirement at such a shop. Not sure what their deal flow is - I just heard of the opportunity and researched the firm. Happy to help in any way I can but wife will leave me if I take more of her time away. Are those people also moderators? The ganging up on diversity recruiting, females, minorities, etc. Small teams give no one any space to hide. As a result of the deletion, my "post of the year" comment is now linked to a completely different post. I appreciated the self-reflection evident in the anecdotes you shared in that thread on sexism. This website is too good for us all to get ruined by those folks. or Want to Sign up with your social account? There's a sliver of overtly toxic stuff that happens (unwanted touching, vile comments). Also, speaking of fuck, there's no curse filter here - just like in real life. Not a lot of recent information on family office compensation so I thought I'd start a thread. the fifth generation.). And unfortunately these days there are things you cannot load off on your colleagues, no much guy talk you have between you. Glad to see you come out of the woodwork. I was here back in the days of TNA, DickFuld and then IlliniProgrammer etc. In reflection, many of my experiences cross or span certain realities that are often very neatly prepackaged. Neque iusto laudantium aut consequatur enim nesciunt. Anonymous for only certified users doesn't sound like a bad idea. Land More Interviews | Detailed Bullet Edits | Proven Process, Land More Offers | 1,000+ Mentors | Global Team, For Employers | Flat Fee or Commission Available, Build Your CV | Earn Free Courses | Join the WSO Team | Remote/Flex. You just mentioned the 'no bump' feature. Looks like your reply to my mine also got deleted, how quaint. I am looking to buy an investment property, most likely a single family rental, and have no experience in doing so. I always love reading your thoughts, so thank you for taking the time to write all of those out in such eloquent detail. If you're open to helping us, please reply here in this thread or email me and I'll reach out to you to set up a call. 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