But most importantly, you need to put down your empty feelings and opinions and pick up the Bible and really ask God for faith, and then read it for real. First analogy: We all go to a building and God gives each of us a cup with our names on it. Our hope for you is unshaken, for we know that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in our comfort. If it wasnt for the suffering of Christ I couldnt be a Christian because my life has had so much suffering in it, Consider this Delores, I have struggled all my lifeI am triedi hav. But people who have nothing would put in everything! Bear one anothers burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. Protestants in the historically Black tradition are somewhat more likely than other Christians to say at . 2 Peter 3:9 ESV / 110 helpful votes Mustard Seed (Thai), Scripture quotations taken from The Holy Bible,New International Version NIV He gets married two other times. It was like I couldnt control it. God bless you, an keep you, Amen. Let God be God; the clay cannot instruct the Potter. But if when you do good and suffer for it you endure, this is a gracious thing in the sight of God. Can they be forgiven and go to heaven? Your wife is she truly a Christian? And that all who wish to live a godly life in Christ will be persecuted- so suffering is actually expected in a godly life! In my case which all i would have wanted from God was for him to bless me with a wife and family that i still Dont have today unfortunately. Sorry for your pain. Jesus said I am the truth, the way and the life,when telling the apostle the way to the kingdom of heaven. Ive been going thru so much and cried to God and I ask for justice. (1 Tim 6:6-16). Acts 14:22 ESV / 79 helpful votes We dont know each other, but understand this: What you feel or think about God or the questioning why, the pain, the misery and not understanding His love is real. For as we share abundantly in Christs sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too. You are loved. We are to live for righteousness and not take vengeance. You lean on your own understanding and do not acknowledge Him in all your ways. Admit it you are hardly a submissive and humble spirit. Jesus is the human capacity and manifestation of Gods Love. Thats what I understood out of my suffering !! ET on EWTN: Holy Mass and Rosary on Wednesday, June 7, 2023 Tell us where you're watching from, and include your intentions for. Im sorry. Colossians 1:24 ESV / 160 helpful votes Why are you not reading it and out here complaining and hating on God? Romans 1:17 James 1:12 ESV / 170 helpful votes Is He promoting you to ask Him cuz you never ask it ask with the wrong motive? Youre gay. The words translated pain and . Jesus suffered the greatest injustice of all when He died for sinners like you and me. 1 Corinthians 10:13 ESV / 232 helpful votes God so llove the world He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus that whosoever believe may have eternal life. It was painful, and faithlessly, I responded as you are feeling. It would be tragic. He can bring about damage to a person through demonic attacks, physical harm, tragedies, and various disturbances without the presence of sin. He can also seduce others to hate you or harm you. Id suggest looking at two passages I know of. The Bible says, "Great is the mystery of godliness" (1 Timothy 3:16). the fact that people who praise God suffer even more than ussual is already proof that God exists,Jesus said only God is goodhave faith and if you did more research on your bible,you would know the kindom of even is inside you, do you know the way to it? Because theyre already against God and going to hell. As a Church, we have to do a better job of representing God by not blaming Him for all the bad things happening in our world. Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal. If youve loved your neighbor and that neighbor chooses to hate on you in overt or covert ways, then dont jump off a cliff. Repent of your sinful pride and hostility agains God and submit to Him in faithful obedience and ask Him to show you what they Psalms really say. I see a problem there. If you sin, there are both earthly and eternal consequences and punishment . 1 Peter 4:13 ESV / 97 helpful votes If he is legit, and omnipresent, hes being wicked with all the suffering for many, for now apparent reason. Job 13:15 ESV / 150 helpful votes Great things would just come to me and happen for me. At a recent political conference, I had the opportunity to meet individuals from different countries, many of whom were currently living amid political uncertainty. Dont you think the enemy is toasting everyone on here that is blasting God for His failure to protect them. I feel God does have favorites. On the other hand, if you were a believer and dont have a group of prayer and accountability partners, have drunken parents and a past of abuse Satan will likely be able to harm you without a ready remedy coming from your side. I too have had a jealousy of others happy lives which nearly became an obsession. The standard for being called a Christian is higher, dear brother, than calling herself one. Human beings will never understand why suffering exists. 1 Peter 4:16 ESV / 98 helpful votes As it is written, For your sake we are being killed all the day long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered. No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. But dont forget from the beginning of time to now , even including the past two millennials after He demonstrated His sacrificial love for sinful men and identification with their sufferings, they (you) have not stopped accusing Him, misjudging Him and verbally abuse Him, betray Him and smear His name to this day. Based on your comments, you do not even have the beginning of wisdom. and Amen! Can God save someone convicted of treason by the government? No human on earth can explain Gods plan but it is great even if we have to suffer for all this life as we know it, it will be well worth it in the end at least thats what I believe. 1 Peter 5:7 ESV / 70 helpful votes I also know they are gracious and kind to forgive me this when I am later in my right mind. And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? Then, when health reasons demanded staying in the States, she dedicated herself to a busy schedule of teaching ladies' Bible . It is the ideal for many reasons, but primarily because, even though while we are in the great pain of travail we cannot see it (probably like a woman in labor, she loses her mind from pain) we will be happy when this life is over if we have remained in belief, and even if we have failed and continue to fail to properly honor God in adversity, we can still bring it back in His mercy at some point, and actually succeed in being pleasing to Him by the time we die. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? The gap between rich and poor is often caused by personal choices, rather than G-d. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us (Romans 5:6-8). According to Robin Ryan, an associate . Share in suffering as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. And whats worse is that even inside the church the poor and hopeless are neglected and when they call upon God they have the same response same from those who profess Gods love. Just before His crucifixion, Jesus explained to His disciples: "If you were of the world, the world would love . Make your life a lesson and a message to help people, not sink them further into he pit of sorrow. Because of Christ, we can rest our faith in the good and loving God despite not knowing why some people suffer more than others. I have been told life is fair well maybe it is people who have families who are rich get money some do. A few fun years on earth for an eternity in hell or being broken and suffering on earth and spending eternity in paradise, a place so incredible that our minds cant comprehend it. But I beg you to read Gods word. The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. This is why staying within a healthy church body is very important. You spot God, let me know. No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him. John 15:19 ESV / 62 helpful votes Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life. That I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death. In your case you are filled with loneliness. May God have mercy on us all. In my case it was me that was standing in my own way. I am quite, nice to everyone.I know what it feels like to be left behind,e no hope I am empty inside..I have had things happen in my life none of it good..I am made to feel stupid. I have repented of almost all my sinsi do still have some work but I know that God is destroying my flesh to rebuild my spirit. She and her husband, Bob, served the Lord for ten years in Spain with the Greater Europe Mission. I am slowly dying but the doctors cant tell me why. Just as I dont know yours. Revelation 2:10 ESV / 86 helpful votes Galatians 6:2 ESV / 145 helpful votes And he said to all, If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. Suffering is also a key theme in the Bible. No. For this is a gracious thing, when, mindful of God, one endures sorrows while suffering unjustly. Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him. Sproul is the only theologian I know of who admits the problem to be . This is my comfort in my affliction, that your promise gives me life. 2 Timothy 1:8 ESV / 90 helpful votes For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. But rejoice insofar as you share Christs sufferings, that you may also rejoice and be glad when his glory is revealed. Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name. I used to be a vain, selfish, and to be blunt, a whore and God broke my body down to a sickly skeleton because he loves me so much I am only 31 years old and I know that I am going to die young and it used to scare me because I was living in sin but not anymore.he let me suffer physically to save my soul. Thats why! However, depending on the persons faith, prayer habits and circle, they may be freed from many of the outcomes. He did not initiate his but simply allowed it because you can bear it and He has willed to use it as a part of your journey and grow you to be his servant and witness, with a deeper knowledge of God, to have a greater dependence and submission to Him. One kind is bad and unfair. I used to believe that God played favorites too but as i kept reading the bible he is always referred to as just. Well the word of God tells us to reign with Christ we must also suffer too I think it would be wrong if Christ was the only one that suffered he suffered for us so.but I too go through hardship at times and i wonder too why lord why , but i still press onward knowing that it wont always be trials and tribulations that the sun will shine again I tell myself hold on old solider that your season will come change is around the corner so please dont give up on God and realize we do get a blessing every day when we wake I rather receive the blessing of just being alive and not sleeping in my graveTo God Be The glory!! Finding faith IS the answer. We must tell the Truth because Truth must set us free when we know and accept it. Is divine justice a lie? Isnt it Gods mercy that leads us to repentance? Which plant are you? First Peter is about suffering. Especially since I was still committing adultery and I was still taking the pain pills which I did think were helping mebut I was abusing them Well then about 3 years ago I started to lose pretty much everyone who raised me and I got sicker and sicker but my addiction was still bad because my grandmothers death destroyed mewell then one night I had a dream of her and she told me that God was allowing her to visit me through my dreams and she would tell me how I needed to get clean and get right and so I put myself in detox amd saw a doctor who gave me a miracle drug that basically wouldnt allow me to go through the nightmare of withdrawal and he said with my health problems that I would take it probably forever but its designed so you literally cant abuse iti only took one pill a day compared to the amount of drugs I had been doingthis medication was Godsend for me and it did save my life and it does help my intense pain and my crippling exhaustion except now Im not strung out, always searching for the next highi actually had clarity again and I realized how sick I had become but just ignored when I was strung out. Does my dad get punished for his sins or now that he is Christian does he get off scott free now? I was searching for an explanation for what I am going through and I found this article that reminded me of the truth. Someone above asked why do the mean people live good lives? I am kind to people I never hurt anyone. Ive given up on any of this. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. We need to focus on ourselves and what we can do to help others and believe me the enemy will try to demoralize you, remember that. Those feelings of loneliness I understand. Do not fear what you are about to suffer. I know God forgave Job for incriminating Him through ignorance, or through his pain which the devil caused him. Isaiah 52:13-53:12 ESV / 89 helpful votes But why do some have to suffer more than others? I have constant thoughts of the bad people done its like trying to move on daily knowing that something bad is going to happen so I am NEVER fully happy . If you are sure you are not actively sinning and do have a wrong view of God (that Satan can use), but find that series of bad things keep happening to you, it may be that there is a gap in your lifestyle that leaves vulnerability to Satan, whether morally or not. I hope that my story and suffering makes someone else realize how wonderful the gift Christ gave us when he died for our sins on that cross really is. Are you a Pisces by any chance? You read the Bible but make up your own mind you even judge God. I am quite there isnt a mean bone in my body, but people bully meI work hard and I am an honest person..why does God hate medecades of pain and suffering from other people why?? . Romans 8:3 ESV / 87 helpful votes Though it was my own sin that brought me to that situation, for the following several years I went through torment, even as I was trying to appeal to God for mercy. If even those who love God could could not help us then what more from a God who hasnt have the time to.listen to our cries. For that matter, the rich seem to prosper even more from the suffering of the poor. As I mulled over their tragic stories, I had to wonder: Why do some people suffer so much more than others? So his fame spread throughout all Syria, and they brought him all the sick, those afflicted with various diseases and pains, those oppressed by demons, epileptics, and paralytics, and he healed them. i also feel like you people who never suffer cant understand . And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing. Reason 1: Peter's Experience The. Like some one commented above: Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christs afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church. Although, I certainly can sympathize with your final sentence and I too know how that feels like. I have always tried to follow God. . The other drink gives you a combination of any or all of the following: disease, sickness, hunger, abuse and mistreatment by the hands of others, deplorable living conditions, feeling different and socially isolated, broken relationships, unfavourable working conditions or finances. Find one moment to be thankful for. Because in Reality, there is nothing separate to cause or receive any actual suffering. And one day, when the new heaven and earth comes, every tear you have ever shed will be wiped away and you will be in glory forever. If people stay selfish and continue to abuse the environment, we all end up breathing in smog and hence have lung cancer and suffer. Second analogy: Romans 8:17-18 ESV / 70 helpful votes All I can say engage the Holy Spirit for easy understanding on your problems solution. Is why Ive finally concluded that we my as well see ourselves as god and not to allow others to hurt us if we can. You never die if you just have faith in the only man on earth who was truly perfect. [deleted] 13 yr. ago REMEMBER: You can only love your neighbor. In the Bible, it even tells us that God forgives us of our sins and gives us grace, but we have to pay attention and realize it. He sins and breaks his marriage vows and WE suffer unending. It's common to wonder if our suffering is. I am suffering greatly but I want the world to hear my testimony. You will suffer on this earth for as long as you have breath, but I have hope that Revelation 21:4 will be true for me. My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? This is faithlessness, the very opposite of faith which is the foundation of knowing and hearing God. Philippians 3:10 ESV / 191 helpful votes Has tried suicide three times and also suffered depression most of his life (all through no fault of his own) . How one person dies in their sleep while others battle painful illnesses for years or be burned alive in a car crash. Theres no telling what was added to the Bible just to satisfy the needs of the time. Yet my daughter and I will go to Hell if we dont forgive him? We see things through a finite mind , we can not understand his infinite wisdom . More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because Gods love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. In the world you will have tribulation. I buried my precious son when he was two months old because the doctors made a mistake. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh. But take heart! Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? Some were being prosecuted by their governments. Moreover, when we are going through hard . 1. The Word of God teaches us that our Lord loves His children, and He "works all things together for good" for us. In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, so that the tested genuineness of your faithmore precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by firemay be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 1 Peter 1:6-7 ESV / 239 helpful votes Sometimes, innocent children suffer because of the sin of others: neglect, abuse, drunk driving, etc. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you. Believers have another place to live after this nonbelievers do not. For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the founder of their salvation perfect through suffering. I cant help but be pissed at my life. Knowing that you will be healed or learn to cope with what ails you. Its tough but never give up God will give you what you need to make it through in this system of things. We usually see what people want us to see but you dont know the inside story. good family and friends, good health, wealth for you to flourish and feel good as a human being. we just want the peace to know that the next lifetime i.e. How he conditions you. 1 Peter 2:19 ESV / 112 helpful votes But she is not being punished at all for cheating and refusing counseling. Or Grow up. I feel betrayed and irrelevant. The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want. He comes to destroy. Instead of simply going through the motion or even seeking quick escape, let us learn to rejoice in trials and suffering! I love that one. As in all things, God's ultimate purpose for us is to grow more and more into the image of His Son ( Romans 8:29 ). Difference in educational levels is one cause of the gap. When I think about what Jesus did for us, like really really ponder what He did for us, it breaks me to pieces knowing how such perfection would seek us out, and truly how unworthy we are. Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Maybe God enjoys watching us squirm in our miserable suffering.. Think of it as this You get or do something and if you get or do it , then God makes it better than it would be, but you do all the initial effort and work. 1 Peter 4:12-16 ESV / 78 helpful votes And God is continually forgiving us for our ingratitude and failures, and for our unbelief and for our angry railings and bitternesss (I am probably more guilty than you in these areas). You get your soul mate or at least it seems and one of the partners loose interest before long. Recently we watched 6 rich arrogant privlidged jerks pay millions of dollars to pretend to be astronauts while thousands lost everything they had and hundreds died in a massive very un-natural tornado. As someone who is very sick I now know why God allows suffering In my case I was a very vile person I committed adultery, I was a drug addict, a liar, a thief, if you can image it I did iti only cared about myselfand I was very vain. The source of our joy. oh but brothergod is not fairoh no no nohe is just. It is hard to u derstand. The less you worry during a trial the more Glory there is that belongs to the Father who delivered you. For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. It could be Satans (and his demons) have a target on you. Ive known suffering my whole life and I am no better off now than I was 30 years ago. I try to, but most days I fail miserably. if they do not understand what is wrong, it is possible that they have not been saved yet the Bible has many passages on those who think they are saved realising on judgment day itself that they arent.. Well I had another dream of my grandmother and she said, I am so proud of you and I love you very much but I am going to Heaven now so you wont see me in your dreams anymore but I will always love you and I will see you againi asked her if my grandfather was in Heaven and she told me he had not made it but she wasnt sad because she said she always warned him to get righti have not dreamed of her since that dream so I know that was her spirit telling me what I needed to hearand it makes me smile to know she is in Heaven, she was the only person in my life who taught me morals and as a kid tried to teach me about God. Its not like I dont want my father or ex-wife saved, I just want them to know what they did was wrong and how much emotional damage they caused. God bless. He was in a coma when his daughter was born. I wouldnt care if it was only us (adult humans) who suffered. You wont have a chance to brag about how much you suffer and complain about God. We learn through our trials, what have the suffering and pain taught you? The answer is: we are all sinners and we are all caught on this cosmic battle between good and evil. If that is happening, rest assured it is unlikely you really get the message that will rightly answer your question. He does not take a perverted pleasure in seeing us brought to nothing. Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. The bad neighbors harm you and the good ones tell you to go to the teacher and he will surely do something but they wont do anything good for you even by mistake. I think He is the energy of intelligence and Love that created everything but then He allows it to evolve and have free will. So heres the thing about any addiction. I was also told that god want us to come to him willingly. All sufferings are subjected to those who refuse to worship Satan. But take heart; I have overcome the world., Revelation 21:4 ESV / 498 helpful votes even i am suffering at this very moment and unlike others, i grew up a very lonely person and when i started seeking help from the Lord, i was helped so much that others started chanting my name, afterwards i really wanted to praise God and as i kept becoming a good, strong person, the suffering increased daily cause ik that when i grow up, i will contribute a large amount to the change of this world beleive you me. Many didnt have the opportunity to study, work, or start a family. You would always think you were in control but allowing you to go through trials is how God strengthens you. Suffering is a terrible terrible thing and i really hate it and wish itll disappear. 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